Thursday, March 5, 2009

Surefire Way to Build Your Church...

And we wonder why things are the way they are...

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Anonymous Steve Martin said...

There certainly a lot of different ways of doing this, that's for sure.

I have seen the Way of Master(s) "technique" and I am not too thrilled with that either.

But, God can make the stones shout if He wants to.

March 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM  
Blogger Steve said...

Yeah, it's not ideal. I think trying to reduce anything to "technique" can run you into trouble pretty easily.

Still, I like their point in this video: We try to paint Jesus as the Candy Man or an ATM, and we wind up with people who "prayed a prayer" rather than people who are regenerate.

March 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM  
Anonymous Steve Martin said...

"...We try to paint Jesus as the Candy Man or an ATM, and we wind up with people who "prayed a prayer" rather than people who are regenerate."

Well said, Steve!

March 7, 2009 at 4:09 PM  
Blogger Ike said...

It seems the church has been taken over by an alien. This enemy has commandered the church to fulfill his own desires!

Who is this invading enemy? It is man! And he has brought into the church his lust for worldly satisfaction and pleasure. The church has become man-centered instead of God-centered, and the focus is on felt needs instead of God's glory. These problems are not peripheral things. The heart and nature of the church and the Gospel are at stake. The great need of the hour is revival and reform that produces true churches where God is the center, the glory of God is the focus, and the Bible is the authoritative and sufficient manual.

The evangelical church has lost its theological moorings. We must join together with countless men of God down through the ages who loved the Church and stood against the always encroaching man-centered doctrines which seek to turn the bride of Christ into a center for entertaining carnal men. As Charles Haddon Spurgeon once declared:

"The devil has seldom done a cleverer thing than hinting to the Church that part of their mission is to provide entertainment for the people, with the view to winning them...providing amusement for the people is nowhere spoken of in the Scriptures as a function of the Church....The need is biblical doctrine, so understood and felt that it sets men aflame."

Ultimately all that matters is the glory of God (Psalm 57:5). And God has ordained that He will recieve most glory through His bride, the church (Ephesians 3:21). Restoring sound doctrine concerning the nature of conversion is foundational to being a church that brings God the glory He deserves!

"Jeff Noblit"

March 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM  
Blogger Steve said...

Ike - I like you!

Agreed - and Spurgeon was right on the money.

Ultimately, I know the church will prevail because it's being built by Jesus and it's God's church. But in that process God calls reformers. May we be among them!

There will always be tares among the wheat as long as this age lasts, but woe to us if we're planting the tares ourselves!

March 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM  

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